pankaj_jain7:
However password reset stays the weakest hyperlink, if I misplaced my cellphone or my e-mail obtained compromised I’m very susceptible.
That may be a legitimate level. If we lose the cell phone which has the TOTP, SMS and E-mail – the passwords, otps will be misused.
Earlier we had a desi jugaad by retaining the shares, MF and many others in pledged mode. Whereby unpledge will take greater than 24hrs (by that point we might contact buyer care and block the SIM).
For pure traders – if the moment unpledge choice will be disabled – it might grow to be a piece round.
pankaj_jain7:
Or system recognition?
I’m requesting this characteristic from ages to Nithin sir. His arms are sadly tied up with SEBI rules. SEBI ought to get extra superior because the time calls for.
My niece is learning CA and her admit card and examination papers got here in her cell , from CA board. They used kernel stage safety for these paperwork. You possibly can solely obtain and think about the paperwork from the cellphone you registered with CA web site . Whereas registering, they secretly installs a file within the Android kernel to validate the cellphone for future logins.Afaik , solely reputed govt entities can get to kernel stage of Android. It’s a idiot proof setup. If kernel safety breaches, cellphone will run in restart loop. Then we now have to re- flash the orginal OS.
I informed this 100 occasions to our boss to impliment a trusted system choice for login. Two units solely. No app , net credentials matter then.If you wish to to login to kite from another means ,that you must have any of your trusted units in hand. No problem of OTP sms supply difficulty ( I confronted that )
I form of just like the sound of it, apart from that I do know govt has what stage of entry to your cellphone. Even when not kernel stage, one thing like what pixels & chromebooks do shall be launched to even common safety issues.
@nithin Congratulations on finishing 13 years. It looks as if time has flown previous since your posts in traderji.com
Is it doable to have a stick window for GTT. You have already got one for order window, so it may be quiet easy to implement.
Additionally every time there may be off-market switch (Zerodha to Zeodha) the costs needs to be fetched from earlier account holder buy value or left to person to kind via the discrepancy
Arockiya_Raja:
Curious to know the aim of the commerce rely on the place web page. Are you referring to the rely of trades or the rely of orders?
Excuse me for making that confusion. I used to be speaking concerning the console ( reviews web page ).Trades are numbered sub 1,2,3 … pages. We don’t get the full variety of trades completed within the given time interval.
Arockiya_Raja:
implementing this on the app will be difficult.
On tablets and telephones , after we are including cease loss or inserting goal , we don’t see the dwell value or dwell pnl . It’s totally one other tab.
I’ve added the picture with sufficient area to maintain a dwell pnl place holder. Should you might do this , that might be superior
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nithin:
Kite
Few strategies @nithin :-
1- Kite personal choice chain insted of offering third celebration choice chain with greeks, oi , quantity and many others and make it accessible for MCX too .
2-Mixed pockets (Securities + commodities)if doable, sustaining seperate margin is troublesome or alternatively constructed a seamless Funds switch machenism b/w securities & commodities.
3-QR based mostly login on kite , console & coin.
4-Dealer from charts (BUY/SELL) is obtainable on CHART-IQ charts however not on TRADING-VIEW charts , if doable please Make it accessible on TV charts too.
5- On-line DDPI activation.
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Hello @nithinFew of my strategies on zerodha, please move it on to your group in case you discover it useful1. Present dwell time on kite net, ideally on the navbar between emblem and dashboard button
2. On the Dashboard, under market overview, please add an choice to see probably the most generally adopted international indices
3. Allow an auto sq. off choice when the account mtm hits a sure stage say -20k or so on. This may assist folks having strict MTM SL per day
4. Present Household Fairness curve as nicely together with the account fairness curve ( You replied to me earlier that your group is engaged on one thing like a MF NAV curve for particular person account, would like to see this prolonged to linked household accounts)
5. Final one, choice so as to add extra holdings to trace outdoors of zerodha which can clear up my difficulty of getting to trace all of the holdings in google finance portfolio, I do know its a bit an excessive amount of to ask
Hiya Nitin,
Simply few advice on Kite net and Cell App,
The UI the place you make folks seek for FnO stike costs and many others sucks there needs to be a greater method to do that. Atleast give a web page with choice chain so its useable to customers, I’m presently utilizing sensibull its free for now so its nice however what occurs once they begin to cost (since its afterall they’re working enterprise for them as nicely)
Please introduce a time delay parameter in GTT for bracket orders since markets operates on 2 dimensions Time and Worth the primary dimension is lacking.
Open a brand new plan which is fastened month-to-month brokerage limitless trades, 20Rs per commerce is basically excessive resistance to get into market
Allow GTT (Bracket Order) for a number of legs collectively a.ok.a Basket GTT set off commerce based mostly on PnL of the basket and never only one instrument.
Krishnakumar:
1. Present dwell time on kite net, ideally on the navbar between emblem and dashboard button
The problem with exhibiting time is that it is probably not in sync with change time. And this might result in complaints. Why can’t two clocks be in actual sync is one thing you may google on the subject.
Krishnakumar:
2. On the Dashboard, under market overview, please add an choice to see probably the most generally adopted international indices
Exhibiting dwell costs of indices entails a knowledge feed price. It’s costlier whether it is behind a login. Google, Investing.com and many others., can present it at a decrease price as it’s accessible publicly. We’re not sure about exhibiting delayed feeds, as it may be deceptive on a buying and selling app.
Krishnakumar:
3. Allow an auto sq. off choice when the account mtm hits a sure stage say -20k or so on. This may assist folks having strict MTM SL per day
On our checklist of issues and we’re working in the direction of launching this.
Krishnakumar:
4. Present Household Fairness curve as nicely together with the account fairness curve ( You replied to me earlier that your group is engaged on one thing like a MF NAV curve for particular person account, would like to see this prolonged to linked household accounts)
@TheGouda ?
Krishnakumar:
5. Final one, choice so as to add extra holdings to trace outdoors of zerodha which can clear up my difficulty of getting to trace all of the holdings in google finance portfolio, I do know its a bit an excessive amount of to ask
Yep, working in the direction of this as nicely.
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pyarlath:
The UI the place you make folks seek for FnO stike costs and many others sucks there needs to be a greater method to do that. Atleast give a web page with choice chain so its useable to customers, I’m presently utilizing sensibull its free for now so its nice however what occurs once they begin to cost (since its afterall they’re working enterprise for them as nicely)
Sensibull will stay free eternally. We’re engaged on a local choice chain integration as nicely (powered by sensibull) which can make this simpler.
pyarlath:
Please introduce a time delay parameter in GTT for bracket orders since markets operates on 2 dimensions Time and Worth the primary dimension is lacking.
Hmmm… I didn’t get this? GTT to fireplace an order at a sure time?
pyarlath:
Open a brand new plan which is fastened month-to-month brokerage limitless trades, 20Rs per commerce is basically excessive resistance to get into market
I’ve answered right here earlier than {that a} fastened month-to-month plan isn’t one thing that makes any enterprise sense. @Meher_Smaran are you able to hyperlink that submit right here.
pyarlath:
Allow GTT (Bracket Order) for a number of legs collectively a.ok.a Basket GTT set off commerce based mostly on PnL of the basket and never only one instrument.
Hmmm… we’ll talk about this. I feel it would find yourself changing into like an algo. @tradingops_z + +
GTT with time dimension means if value motion triggers GTT it would look ahead to X minutes submit which if the set off situation remains to be glad then it pushes for order, why such a behaviour is required? Trigger charts transfer in a anaconda (S, W, V form) sample which instantly triggers SL, delaying SL will invalidates such spikes.
For basket SL’s and the above behaviour usually are not algo, they might assist to cut back infra burden in your facet and higher revenue possibilities on merchants facet… I’d name a system algo when it scans, computes value and quantity after which enters and exits commerce fully autonomous
Anyhow all i did was level some quick commings beforehand, I also needs to prefer to some love what you guys have constructed is superior and a tending product, sustain the nice work group.
Thanks
Hello @pyarlath
pyarlath:
Open a brand new plan which is fastened month-to-month brokerage limitless trades, 20Rs per commerce is basically excessive resistance to get into market
Test this submit by @nithin to know the rationale close to how fastened brokerage isn’t actually a viable choice from a enterprise perspective
I had shared this final yr on Twitter
https://twitter.com/Nithin0dha/standing/1578238205388025856
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With all of the regulatory modifications which might be occurring, I wouldn’t be shocked if brokerages go up sooner or later.I had answered this earlier than.
The entire concept of charging flat charges per executed order is that the price of executed order doesn’t go up with the scale of the commerce. So if somebody buys 1 lot or 100 heaps, the hassle that we put is identical and therefore cost the identical.
Coming to the…
And this may additionally result in complacency for merchants as nicely in each the quick and long term.
I do know this may sound a bit bizarre coming from a broking firm saying that merchants shouldn’t possibly overtrade, However, we might fairly need our purchasers to stick with us for many years creating wealth fairly than overtrade and lose cash and generate income for a really quick time period.
Overtrading is without doubt one of the major causes for many merchants dropping cash more often than not.
There’s ample quantity of stable analysis on this and plenty of merchants can even vouch for it.
That is good analysis paper that explores how the habits of investor modifications after buying and selling commissions are eliminated.
We present retail traders are extremely conscious of modifications in buying and selling fee charges. Utilizing a triple-difference analysis design across the elimination of charges for retail traders on the worldwide retail dealer platform, eToro, we present traders responded by buying and selling roughly 30% extra steadily, in smaller order sizes, and rising portfolio turnover. Eradicating charges additionally …
I’d sound like a hypocrite saying this, however after the expertise of the final 13 years of Zerodha, I’m not sure if low brokerage helps merchants general. Low brokerage creates an phantasm which you could by some means commerce out and in rapidly and generate earnings, which isn’t true. Other than brokerage, there may be influence price and statutory fees.
Other than leverage, overtrading is one other large motive folks lose cash within the markets. Low brokerage might, amongst many issues, even be the rationale for overtr…
Our key aim as a enterprise is to assist folks do higher with their cash and ultimately create wealth over the long term.
pyarlath:
I also needs to prefer to some love what you guys have constructed is superior and a tending product, sustain the nice work group
Thanks in your honest suggestions and type phrases